I have received strong reactions to by blog in which I claimed I would rather be a Hindu minority in Pakistan than be a Muslim minority in India. While an overwhelming majority of attacks were against me personally at least one person tried to refute my claims. It is appreciable. Here is my response to the points raised as a rebuttal to by blog.
Quoting USCIRF
As a response to my article people have used USCIRF’s assessment that Pakistan is a little worse than India in protecting religious freedoms of minorities. USCIRF is a US based organisation which monitors religious freedoms around the world and helps their Govt in making policy. USCIRF was banned from entering India in 2009 after it opposed the visa for Narendra Modi the now Prime Minister of India. This was done by Congress. Why would Congress do that? Well it had it own concerns about USCIRF reviving the ghost of 1984 anti Sikh pogrom (another minority) and the systemic failure to bring the perpetrators to justice.
USCIRF continued to urge the US Government to maintain visa ban on Narendra Modi. In 2013 USCIRF said:
“There is significant evidence linking him to the violence and the terrible events that took place in Gujarat and for this reason, a visa would not be appropriate.”
Katrina Lantos Swett, chairwoman of the US Commission for International Religious Freedom (USCIRF)
India has entirely escaped any kind of international scrutiny of whats been called India’s “hidden apartheid”.
– European Centre for Law & Justice”Religious minorities in India, particularly Christians and Muslims, suffer religious persecution daily”
– European Centre for Law & Justice
- who lost their loved ones in massacres
- who were forced to see their loved one being raped by a mob.
- who were jailed for years using fabricated terrorism charges.
- who face job discrimination.
- who face housing discrimination.
- who are beaten by police and made to accept cow as their mother.
- who are not allowed to join intelligence agencies because India does not trust Muslims.
- who are arrested by police and beaten by Hindutva thugs on accusations of blasphemy.
- who are not allowed to run Urdu schools in the most populous state of India.
- who will lose right to reservation if he is Dalit and has chosen to leave Hinduism.
I did not quote these stories in my original blog because it was about the bigger picture. And here is the bigger picture:
- Have Hindus faced repeated Gujarat, Nellie, Mumbai like pogroms in Pakistan? No.
- Are anti Hindu forces reaping rewards from the Pakistanis in form of electoral gains? No.
- Is Hindu Personal Law under threat in Pakistan? No.
- Are Pakistani Hindus being forced change their dietary habits? No.
- Are Pakistani Hindus constantly under pressure from politicians and media? No.
For those who say Hindus cant resister their marriage in Pakistan here is the whole case. Pakistani Hindus are opposing the divorce clause saying that “We have no concept of divorce in our religion” delaying the passage of the Hindu Marriage Act.
“The extremists in Pakistan have failed to garner support in the democratic election”
Really? Why is JI a coalition partner of Imran Khan’s party why do they endorse “Jihadi” propaganda in school text books? Why is Awami Party opposed to them?
http://www.rferl.org/content/pakistan-education-jihad-islam-khyber/25092236.html
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1. I dont know of any incident in which Imran Khan has made Anti Hindu speeches like Anti Muslim modi speeches in India.
2. Dont know if Imran Khan’s party has an open Anti Hindu Agenda.
3. Imran Khan lost the general election miserably and is most likely to remain the fringe party.
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“Have Hindus faced repeated Gujarat, Nellie, Mumbai like pogroms in Pakistan? ”
They had faced it once. In 1971. Combine the casualties of all the pogroms and riots in India and you will still fall short of that amazing feat. Besides, in Pakistan, pogroms have a different form. Its called suicide bombing. Ask Ahmedias or Shias. They might throw some light. Hindus are way too miniscule for that effort.
“Are anti Hindu forces reaping rewards from the Pakistanis in form of electoral gains”
Power, in Pakistan, flows not form ballot, but from barrel of a gun. And from close association with the deep state. People looking for power are less likely to run for office and more likely to run charity organizations. Ask Hafeez Sayed.
“Is Hindu Personal Law under threat in Pakistan?
Are Pakistani Hindus being forced change their dietary habits?
Are Pakistani Hindus constantly under pressure from politicians and media?”
Can’t say if these are the only tests needed to gauge how minorities are treated in a country. Ahmedis, for example, are declared, by the State, as not-muslims and every Pakistani, including an Ahmedi, has to declare that Ahmediyya founder is an ‘imposter’ if they ever want a Pakistani passport. Or that Shias can’t call their mosques ‘masjid’. I believe as long as their Personal Law and dietary habits are not threatened, it is not persecution. Anyway, for some unkown reason, Hindus are lining up at Wagah border to get citizenship of India, but reverse doesn’t appear to be happening. I mean, Muslims of India are not climbing over each other’s shoulder to get citizenship of Pakistan.
Btw, and this comes from my ignorance, are Muslim Personal Laws applicable in Australia and it they are to what extent?
You are fighting a good fight against these Sanghis. Just don’t loose the plot, as you seem to have in this case.
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In 1971 The Mukti Bahini was fighting for the independence of Bangladesh. As nation states do, Pakistan came down with a heavy hand against the freedom fighters. Many Hindus and Muslims were killed by the Pakistani Army and their supporters. India does that in Kashmir where thousands have been killed and who can forget the brutal “police action” against Muslims in Hyderabad. Pakistan does the same in Baluchistan where everyone fighting for independence is a Muslim.
Hafiz Sayeed does not hold any position of power. Hafiz Saeed has not led any mobs against Hindus of Pakistan. He is a terrorist and is used by the Pakistani establishment. In India terrorists have become the establishment.
I agree there is persecution of Shias and Admediyas but not the same with Hindus. Those who launch attacks on Shias are still seen as terrorists, not elected to power by the people. Many Hindus from the most prosperous state of Gujarat try to illegally enter the United States because of economic reasons. Same with a very tiny minority of Hindus living in Pakistan who shifted to India mainly for economic reasons.
No Muslim Personal Law is not applicable in Australia neither does Australia have a 1000+ history of Islam. Neither are native Australians Muslims. All is true in the case of India where Hindutva extremists and fake liberals are trying to impose their values on Muslims.
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While i am not a right winger and have no ‘beef’ {pun intended, i do have beef :)} with your preferences.
There is a simple reality about minorities, if your numbers are too low then you are not electorally relevant and hence the majority is largely indifferent , when your numbers become electorally relevant then you become the target of all kinds of organized groups. On the other hand a very tiny minority is essentially at the mercy of the dominant community but if they become sizeable then they can organize politically but this takes a long time as the democracy matures.
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